As Ray Franz brought out in his book, Crisis of Conscience, why did Jesus have to sit at the right hand of God until all his enemies we placed at his feet, but the first thing he did after being enthroned is start war in heaven with Satan?
Sigfrid Mallozzi
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1914 Dropped
by pale.emperor inso i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.
the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?
does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.
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UGHHHHH Wife wants to pioneer. Our future together doesn’t look promising
by goingthruthemotions inughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.
our future together doesn't look promising .
i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
Most new pioneer's stop after a year; that's why they started the pioneer school. The PS screws the guilt and indoctrination up exponentially.
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David Splane's 2020 Conventionl talk ....''Jehovah has to come first''
by RULES & REGULATIONS in'' has your desire to put jehovah first been tested during this pandemic?
you lost your job and you searched for another one.
finally, after a long search, you found one but it was a job that would require you to miss all your meetings and field service.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
All is well when the United States Government has the Paycheck Protection Program, and $600 Federal money in addition to the States Unemployment, student loan deferral, etc.
In 2009 when the last "Economic Crisis" hit I was one of the few in the congregation employed. The unemployed in the congregation were auxiliary pioneering and so happy, and beating me because I had a job. At the end of 2009 I resigned and never went into a Kingdom Hall again. This was when the overlapping generation crap came out also. I never looked back.
It is unpredictable how talks like this will effect people. Personally knowing the inside of Bethels and how disconnected they are to the world around them, whenever they started this nonsense talk I just put them on mute.
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Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting
by Aleph inhey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!
" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.
- no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
I agree AlanV. Concentrate on the windshield and not the rearview mirror. Move forward.
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I'm not into conspiracy theories, but Google FEMA clergy response team. Would WT. throw the R&F under the bus to save it's own skin
by nowwhat? incorrect me if i'm wrong but about the same time this was activated was when the wt.
came out with the "we may receive instructions that may not seem practical from a human standpoint".
and it has been emphasized greatly regarding covid measures that "we must obey the superior authorities".
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
I thought all the closed Walmarts were going to be used for camps.
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Do You Think We Will Ever Get To “Normal” Again?
by minimus inwill we ever be able to congregate together for a concert or a theater?
will we forever be wearing a mask at walmart?
will restaurants and bars allow people to eat drink and simply hang out?.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
Our New Normal!
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Do You Think We Will Ever Get To “Normal” Again?
by minimus inwill we ever be able to congregate together for a concert or a theater?
will we forever be wearing a mask at walmart?
will restaurants and bars allow people to eat drink and simply hang out?.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
LanceLink great point! Alcohol sales are up exponentially. In pre-COVID years, 88,000 people in the U.S.A die annually from alcohol-related causes. How high will this statistic go or will it all be swept into the Covid-19 total deaths?
I went to a chiropractor yesterday for the first time in months. I wore my mask in and the chiropractor told me that I didn't have to wear the mask if I didn't want to. But, If I felt more comfortable .....
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Dutch JW publish open letter protesting accusations of mishandling child abuse and government inquiry
by Anders Andersen intoday watchtower netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.. they protest a scientific report made by utrecht university (by request of the government).. they protest almost everything our minister of justice has said about them.. they place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.. they point their finger a other religions (foremost the catholic church) because they are much worse.. they refer to jw being persecuted in wwii, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.. all in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.. not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology.
quite the contrary.. they suck.. the minister of justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".. see the translation of the jw letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
Thank you Anderson!
I will agree with the Minister of Justice saying, "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail"."
Their response should be: "We have made some errors and failures in protecting children with these specific matters; HOWEVER! ..... We will initiate all of the Minister of Justice's observations and We further propose the following to go beyond...(you get the idea).
The letter is 1857 words of rambling incoherent ideas that few newspaper readers will read in its entirety. It is obvious that this open letter was not written by a professional council or someone with more than middle school education, probably written by, i.e. the Branch Overseer.
This paragraph I thought was comically interesting, just beware "you get what you pay for" because JW's pastoral work is free. I'm also going to call "Bull Shxxt" on elders using "experienced women in the congregation" for anything other than cleaning. Hell, they only used me to mow the lawn or buy supplies to clean. Lol!
It is insulting to anyone who actively provides assistance to the victims and their relatives that minister Dekker falsely claims that victims lack 'low-threshold emotional and practical support'. The opposite is true. The elders of our congregations seek to take a loving and active interest in the spiritual and emotional needs of those in the congregation. One of the ways elders doing this is through pastoral support, which is always provided free of charge. Pastoral visits are one integral and regular part of the religious activity of the elders. They make granting pastoral support a priority, especially in cases of child sexual abuse. If it's a female As a victim, the elders may be assisted by experienced women in the congregation.
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Cowardly Change of Policy in the UK
by Slidin Fast inthe britain branch has called a confidential meeting tonight with a controversial announcement.
the message is of such import that it was transmitted by word of mouth only, nothing in writing, ears only.
a decision made by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and transmitted orally down the chain of command, a decision proving the leadership of this spirit lead body.. the gdpr laws in the uk have been interpreted by wt lawyers so that all record keeping relating to the public has been banned, telephone witnessing and letter writing also, forbidden.. now in a show of supreme bravado the publishers are to be informed that if they wish to, if they dare, they may write to people at their own risk.. bear in mind, nothing is in writing.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
After 911, the WTBTS communicated with DO's, they communicated with CO's, and they communicated with Presiding Overseers of a new message/presentation with scriptures that we should share with the public. It was spun as this will be how Jehovah communicates with us as we get deeper into the time of the end.
Interestingly, our Bird Brain PO didn't get the message correct, (duh) and we found out about it months later. Face Palm. If it had been Harmaggeddon we would have died.
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Bewildering Background revealing who stopped slavery in the world
by Terry inbewildering background.
even among the greatest religious thinkers and moral philosophers of civilizations around the world for 1000’s of years slavery was not considered a moral issue.. only one civilization developed a “moral revulsion” against it very late in its history:western civilization.. abraham lincoln said:if slavery is not considered wrong; nothing can be considered as wrong.. but why did not even the leading moralists among other nations and civilizations reject slavery at all?.
there is no evidence that slavery came under attack in any other part of the world before the 18th century.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
Slavery still exists today in the world and is called "Human Trafficking".